obama and others confirmed by administration officials could envision tax rates increasing from current levels to less than clinton era levels. so 37, 38%, is that enough for you? >> i would like to see the bush tax cuts for the upper income go away completely. with many people, myself included we don't want to negotiate against ourselves at the moment. there is going to have to be give and take. this will be a compromise. neither party can do it alone. there are pieces of this which i don't like. but those tax rates during the clinton years were pretty prosperous years. i think the american people would be happy to go back to the prosperity we enjoyed then. they weren't a damper on the economy. i think it fair that we go back to those rates. >> i understand not wanting to negotiate with yourselves but you have to negotiate with somebody. so -- yes or no -- would you settle for something lower than 36.9%? >> i don't want to say what my line would be. we have to make compromises. if the rates do come up whether they have to come up to precisely the way they were during the clinton admini